"Validation of Tactics, Techniques and Procedures via Live Fire Training"

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"Validation of Tactics, Techniques and Procedures via Live Fire Training"

Troll: Posted on Wednesday, December 01, 2010 1:37 PM

In my travels around the world (and more so the USA) I have noted that the majority of tactical units within law enforcement do not validate their tactics, techniques and procedures with live fire application (and when I state live fire I am not referring to simunition fx marking cartridges, airsoft or paintball). Now, as a person that grew up in military special forces where live fire validation was an integral part of any TTP we used, I am concerned and perplexed. If you have never validated a TTP through live fire during training how would you ever know that it would work in the real world? Or for that matter how would you know how your operators would/will react?

So...my question to those of you who do not validate TTPs via live fire...why not?

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Tim on Sunday, December 05, 2010 8:19 AM

Tactical training and procedures should simulate "real world" encounters, as closely as possible, for a well-trained team to be fully prepared. It would seem, however, the overall consensus in law enforcement of the non-use of live fire is safety of the team during training exercises, but this rationale achieves the opposite. The enhanced level of awareness needed, and experienced, during live fire can only be accomplished through its use. While training with non-lethal ammunition offers safety in training exercises, it increases the likelihood of a failed operation if the team has never worked "without a net". The use of live fire is inherently risky, but its risks are known and anticipated through the training exercise, therefore providing each individual with the experience and knowledge of its use. This serves to increase safety in operations, where it is most needed, by supplying the team with the confidence of knowing exactly how each member will react and perform during a hostile encounter.

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Dennis (T2) on Wednesday, December 29, 2010 2:51 PM

"Train as you fight!" Waiting for a "real mission" to find out someone will react to live fire around them is not the time to find who can and can not handle the stress. As someone who has trained both ways I can say for certain that live fire is the only way to seperate the people who can deal with the stress and those who can not. You also become more aware of muzzle awareness and what is between you and your target as well as what is beyond it. Going into a room and yelling "bang, bang" and not pulling the trigger does not train you for the real thing. T2

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T1 on Thursday, January 06, 2011 11:34 AM

Yes indeed...train as you fight or operate. I see a lot of risk aversion regards training within law enforcement. Would it not make sense that if you are planning on operating within a high risk environment your training would reflect that? And how do we mitigate high risk training without inflicting injury or worse and/or "choreographing" or "canning" that training? We use risk assessment and analysis which equates to risk management.

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TROLL on Friday, April 08, 2011 7:04 PM

RISK AVERSION...Oh my how it continues to raise its ugly head in the law enforcement community. So many good people in harms way and put there with inferior, improper or NO training. So what can be done about all of this? I certainly have my thoughts...what about you folks out there on the ground? What can be done...should be done...will be done to make sure that patrol and SWAT are the best prepared and confident they can be for the worst case scenario they WILL undoubtedly one day face?

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T2 on Thursday, June 09, 2011 7:47 AM

risk aversion, fear, lack of faith in the abilites of operators. Who really knows why? AS someone that has trained both ways I can honestly say live fire should be done by all operators before they are allowed to enter a mission. Going into a room and yelling"bang, bang" does nothing but teach you bad habits. Your brain will do what is has been trained to do. If it comes down to you having to take a real shot and all you have done while entering a room is yell "bang bang", guess what you are now programed to do. I was at a training recently with another training group where there was no live fire and I was at least getting into the habit of clicking my safety off and squeezing the trigger for muscle memory. I had a few guys from other teams doing the same once they saw what I was doing for the same reason. You never know how someone will react during live fire. People change and you need to know that before the real thing. For legal reasons and most importantly for the safety of everyone involved. Again, TRAIN AS YOU FIGHT!

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Ed Reilly on Monday, October 31, 2011 5:27 AM

I just completed tier 1 training and after doing so I could never imagine going through this training and not validating it with live fire CQB. It helps you to make the proper decisions and to remain focused on the task at hand. It teaches you to have confidence in your team members and not be concerned when the gun fire starts. I work in one of the states who is not accustomed to real life training and this was my first time (other than simunitions)conducting live fire training. Having done so, this is truly the only way to train. I just finished training last night and I already can't wait for sustainment. For those who do not validate their training with live fire, you must get on board. It can only make you better.

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